Comments on: I Hate Networks that Use Direct Track http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/ I Make Money Online by Simply Failing at It! Read my mistakes so you don\'t have to do them! A online blog of mistakes and successes. Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:00:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Do You Like Affiliate Networks Using DirectTrack? | Just Good Thinking http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3565 Do You Like Affiliate Networks Using DirectTrack? | Just Good Thinking Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:53:43 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3565 [...] system, while paying their monthly hosting/management costs. - Others have discussed their complaints around the internet on Direct Track as [...] [...] system, while paying their monthly hosting/management costs. - Others have discussed their complaints around the internet on Direct Track as [...]

]]> By: Tom Manspeaker http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3296 Tom Manspeaker Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:26:00 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3296 Hi Ian... can you elaborate a bit on what you mean by "poor representation of their system and network?" Honestly, we at DT communicate generously with our clients, notifying them of new functionality. We also pride ourselves on support and being able to help any client with any questions or issues within 24 hours. As I alluded to above, I don't want to throw any AM's under the bus here, but if someone is telling you something that isn't true, I don't think it's fair to identify it as a DirectTrack issue. If you bought a car from someone who told you that it didn't have power windows, and you found out later that it did, who would you be upset with? Ford, or the guy who sold you the car? Or would you even be upset? I would be excited to play with my new power windows :) So like I said, I'd be more than happy to educate you on how it works and then you can be fully up to speed and be able to use DirectTrack networks in a way that works for your business model. Hi Ian… can you elaborate a bit on what you mean by “poor representation of their system and network?”

Honestly, we at DT communicate generously with our clients, notifying them of new functionality. We also pride ourselves on support and being able to help any client with any questions or issues within 24 hours. As I alluded to above, I don’t want to throw any AM’s under the bus here, but if someone is telling you something that isn’t true, I don’t think it’s fair to identify it as a DirectTrack issue.

If you bought a car from someone who told you that it didn’t have power windows, and you found out later that it did, who would you be upset with? Ford, or the guy who sold you the car? Or would you even be upset? I would be excited to play with my new power windows :)

So like I said, I’d be more than happy to educate you on how it works and then you can be fully up to speed and be able to use DirectTrack networks in a way that works for your business model.

]]> By: Ian http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3295 Ian Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3295 > Tom ok if it tracks on a click basis then why is the network not telling me so. that is the problem right there poor communication between you and the network. one network told me it does not track on a per click basis, the reason why I wrote this. but another network that does use it, does track it on a per click basis, which I have also left because of poor representation of their system and network. I think I emailed someone from your team as CPAEmpire wanted to recruit me but I asked if they use DT and I had to let them go. because I am just not going through the headache I did with 2 networks using DT. I told one of your team member that their should be training on the system and feedback from AM to Aff would be greatly increased. Tom thanks for stopping by to shed some light but it looks pretty dark still. > Tom
ok if it tracks on a click basis then why is the network not telling me so. that is the problem right there poor communication between you and the network. one network told me it does not track on a per click basis, the reason why I wrote this. but another network that does use it, does track it on a per click basis, which I have also left because of poor representation of their system and network.

I think I emailed someone from your team as CPAEmpire wanted to recruit me but I asked if they use DT and I had to let them go. because I am just not going through the headache I did with 2 networks using DT. I told one of your team member that their should be training on the system and feedback from AM to Aff would be greatly increased. Tom thanks for stopping by to shed some light but it looks pretty dark still.

]]> By: Tom Manspeaker http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3294 Tom Manspeaker Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:23:35 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3294 As you might imagine, I'm pretty hesitant to call someone a liar. I'd be happy to continue this discussion by email if you like.... tom dot manspeaker at directresponse dot com. I don't want to hijack Ian's blog here. .. As you might imagine, I’m pretty hesitant to call someone a liar. I’d be happy to continue this discussion by email if you like…. tom dot manspeaker at directresponse dot com. I don’t want to hijack Ian’s blog here. ..

]]> By: Kiley http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3293 Kiley Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:12:50 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3293 @Tom - If that is in fact the case, then their are a lot of networks lying. So who is telling the truth? @Tom - If that is in fact the case, then their are a lot of networks lying. So who is telling the truth?

]]> By: Tom Manspeaker http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3292 Tom Manspeaker Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:02:53 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3292 Very briefly, much of the information here is incorrect. Sub ID tracking works and tracks clicks. I'd be happy to walk you through a demo of this if you would like so you can use it with the networks you are working with. Any information given to you claiming that DT "shaves" stats are completely false. Also, all DT clients have full access to manipulate the interface however they see fit. Everything is customizable and we even offer open API's for accessing the data and processing it however you or the network would like. DT does have a host of reports available. The breadth of functionality requires that affiliates using the more advanced tools have reports relating to them. It is not necessary to use those reports if they are not of interest to the affiliate. Very briefly, much of the information here is incorrect. Sub ID tracking works and tracks clicks. I’d be happy to walk you through a demo of this if you would like so you can use it with the networks you are working with.

Any information given to you claiming that DT “shaves” stats are completely false.

Also, all DT clients have full access to manipulate the interface however they see fit. Everything is customizable and we even offer open API’s for accessing the data and processing it however you or the network would like.

DT does have a host of reports available. The breadth of functionality requires that affiliates using the more advanced tools have reports relating to them. It is not necessary to use those reports if they are not of interest to the affiliate.

]]> By: zach http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3183 zach Tue, 13 May 2008 03:59:12 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3183 Hi, i really like your site layout. I will continue reading here, so i subscribed! Maybe you could check out my site, and even subscribe if you like. Thanks, Zach. Hi, i really like your site layout. I will continue reading here, so i subscribed! Maybe you could check out my site, and even subscribe if you like. Thanks, Zach.

]]> By: Marko Nikolic http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3182 Marko Nikolic Mon, 12 May 2008 18:56:29 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3182 I'm completely with you on this. Direct tracking cost me a lot of money before I realized the problem lied in the tracking. I ran an identical offer on both a direct tracking network and one that used an in house tracking system and the in house system outperformed direct tracking 4 to 1. I haven't used direct tracking since and have had zero problems with the in house systems. Marko I’m completely with you on this.

Direct tracking cost me a lot of money before I realized the problem lied in the tracking. I ran an identical offer on both a direct tracking network and one that used an in house tracking system and the in house system outperformed direct tracking 4 to 1. I haven’t used direct tracking since and have had zero problems with the in house systems.

Marko

]]> By: Mike http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3181 Mike Mon, 12 May 2008 16:39:34 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3181 Hey Ian, Sorry man, I was out of town on vacation all last week, but I'm back and well rested! I read your post and understand your concerns, as we have discussed many of them already. Kiley is correct in that we keep a constant eye on our tracking to make sure ours is in line with our advertisers. Whenever it doesn't line up, we make SURE to comp our publishers accordingly. I'm looking forward to speaking with you again this week so we can make sure you are 100% comfortable with MarketLeverage and promoting offers with us. Thanks, Mike Hey Ian,

Sorry man, I was out of town on vacation all last week, but I’m back and well rested! I read your post and understand your concerns, as we have discussed many of them already. Kiley is correct in that we keep a constant eye on our tracking to make sure ours is in line with our advertisers. Whenever it doesn’t line up, we make SURE to comp our publishers accordingly. I’m looking forward to speaking with you again this week so we can make sure you are 100% comfortable with MarketLeverage and promoting offers with us.

Thanks,
Mike

]]> By: Kiley http://www.ianfernando.com/2008/i-hate-networks-that-use-direct-track/#comment-3166 Kiley Fri, 09 May 2008 19:32:40 +0000 http://www.ianfernando.com/?p=484#comment-3166 DO NOT forget about lead shaving. That crap is DT's worst trait, it shaves a certain percent automatically. I spoke to Nike over at Market Leverage, they us DT, but he said the try to keep it to a minimum and they compensate for it most of the time. DO NOT forget about lead shaving. That crap is DT’s worst trait, it shaves a certain percent automatically. I spoke to Nike over at Market Leverage, they us DT, but he said the try to keep it to a minimum and they compensate for it most of the time.

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