ryan deiss has been doing lead generation/ppc/paid traffic since like 1998. the only reason why he released a facebook product is because he knew that there was a lack of information in the “newb internet marketers” marketplace. he’s just exploiting a void in the market, and profiting pretty well from it. it’s not a case of him doing something for 5 months and trying to teach people about it – he knows what hes doing.

you just have to remember that his audience is generally newbies – he’s not going to sell super advanced stuff, because no one would buy it. he’s a pretty good marketer if you pay attention to how he positions his products, etc. do as he does, not as he says.

with the ryan deiss love aside, there is a lot of garbage in the internet marketing space. a lot of fakers, a lot of bullshit guru info products. but it’s not ALL bad. there are some guys that do care about their customers – though unfortunately it’s something that is relatively rare.

and lastly – who cares who is “better” or not? as long as you are doing what you love – that’s all that matters. some guys just like the product/jv approach – if it’s easy and works, why switch?

anyway, not trying to attack you – just giving my 2 cents

I haven’t seen Ryan Deiss’s new product, but I think “david” above is right – he’s exploiting a gap in the market segment of “internet marketers”.

That being said, I agree with a lot of your comments regarding the non-stop internet marketing “incest” of scratching each other’s back, cross-promoting every new product launch, and rehashing and reteaching “how to make money….” information. One thing is for sure, I am rapidly unsubscribing myself from many email lists each month based on who simply sends the latest product promos.

This is why it’s important to choose your mentors/teachers carefully. It’s easy for newbies to follow newbies who are following amateurs who are following amateurs…and somewhere up that chain are the real/true marketers who’s info gets sliced & diced into different iterations of infoproducts.

There is good and bad in all corners of the Internet/Affiliate marketing world – some who add value and some who don’t, some who are sincere/genuine and some who aren’t, some who care about their lists/customers and some who see them as simply a $metric.

Hope to meet you at the next affiliate summit.

Its great that you took the risk and made your move as an affiliate marketer. Really inspiring for internet marketers like us to move a step ahead as an affiliate marketer

Maybe it’s just me, but I always interpreted the term “internet marketer” as simply a broader term, where “affiliate marketer” was a subset of that.

The way I see it, anyone doing affiliate marketing online are also by definition internet marketers. As internet marketers, we all drive web traffic to products or services one way or another.

Some internet marketers promote other people’s products (as affiliates), some promote their own products directly, and some help others by offering their online marketing skills to businesses through consulting, etc.

Your point of view makes a lot of sense. I’ve been watching your web log for 3 days now and I should say I am beginning to enjoy your post.

Very interesting post. You definitely got some good reasons why Affiliate marketers are “better” than Internet marketers. Keep up with the powerful messages! I’ll be back to read more on your next blog.

Quite an interesting comparision between the two. I must say I never really thought about it in these ways but you definitely made some good points there. I too have always found myself leaning more towards affliate marketers as being the better bunch.

Till then,

Jean

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That’s some deep insight right there. I never thought about the different ways that the different sects of online marketers work. You got some good points here in your post.

I favour being an affiliate marketer but will be looking forward to get into Internet Marketers and integrate the both for a better bussiness.

I used to think that internet marketer and affiliate marketer are the same. With this post, I finally understand the difference between these 2 group of people.

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